Replacing the electrolytic triple capacitor

The Gibson Recording Amp seems to have originally had radial capacitor that was a triple capacitor, having the vaues of 22/20/20 UF and rated at 450 volts.   In investigating the possible causes of the low frequency wall-rattling rumble it seemed more and more likely that all or part of this triple-capacitor was not functioning properly and was letting higher frequencies through to the amplifier.   This was a rumble that you knew to shut down the amp immediatly because it would grow quickly and threaten to blow out the speakers.

I had questions about replacing it becasue I could not find any source of electrolytic capacitors like this.   You can see this capacitor below, which looks like a paper coin wrapper.   I you look closely you can the tube has been distorted by the spring steel clamp that holds it.

Triple Capacitor

I searched quite a bit, but I could not find a source for capacitors like this old radial electrolytic, which was apparantly a triple-capacitor.   The best solution I could come up with was to replace it with a can type capacitor that was a three or four in one.   I cut out the old cap.   I wanted to remove the rivit which attache the cap holder but it was backed by the choke.   The two nuts that held the choke in place were difficult to reach and spun when I tried to remove the bolts from the outside of the case.   I fnally found a way to hold them from spinning and got them free but it was tedious.    I used a new rivit to install a holder for new capacitor and there was just barely enough room to squeze it in amon the existing wiring.

I had to extend the wiring to allow it to reach to the new cap.  Here is a picture of how it looks installed:

Can Capicitor

Not shown here is that I used rivits to secure the choke back to the amplifier case.   This was much easier than trying to fit in the old bolts and also felt like a more sturdy installation.  If I have to remove the choke again it will be easy to drill out the rivits from the outside of the case.

Values:  The values of the old triple capacitor was 22/20/20 uf  450 Volts.   The new capacitor is a quad and is rated at 40/20/20/20  500 Volts.     I opted to try the 40 to replace the 22 uf.  Its’ my understanding that this may increase the bass and it’s better to go to a higher than a lower value than before.    If I’m not happy with the sound I may switch it to a 20 uf post (so I have an option either way).

I must say, it was very satisfying to start up the amp and to find that the low rumble in 2nd and 3rd  “ON” positions was completely gone.

 

 

Vintage Tube Amp Handle DIY (Yes..you can make one!)

I have been searching high and low for a replacement handle for my Gibson Recording Amp.   The existing handle was broken beyond repair and my online search revealed many handles but none with a look that quite resembled the original in form or function.   When I took a closer look at it I had the thought of trying to deconstruct it and possibly using the pieces to make templates from.   That’s what I did.

Below is a photo of the original unusable handle.

Handle1

I cut the stitching with a razor blade and carefully peeled off the old tolex.   This revealed some stacked and glued leather, a spring steel strap (which was broken), and a top layer of leather that sat atop the strap.

Handle2

I purchased some Tolex online but upon receiving it I was a bit disappointed:  1) it was much thinner than I had hoped and nowhere as thick as the original tolex  2) It was very difficult to tell which was the backing side and which was the top side…I ended up guessing;  3) Contact cement seemed to soften it very readily.    So I had no illusion that my new handle would look exactly like the original….I just wanted to see  if I could go about reconstructing one anyway.
I must say…it came out really well for a first shot and I’m going to hunt around for some more sources of Tolex (hopefully thicker and closer to the original pattern).   I found that I had a broken piece of spring steel fish tape…such as electritions use to fish wires through walls and ceilings.   It just happened to be very similar to what was used in the original handle.   I had trouble bending it in the sharp curve that it needed for each end and the only solution was to heat it over a flame which seemed to allow the molecules of metal to move just enough to allow me to bend it without breaking it.   I’m sure this is something one can get better at with a few tries and it eventually worked.

For the leather, I had an old belt that I harvested.   I cut out the pieces using my templates and used contact cement to glue them and to adhere the tolex to them.   I ended up with a nice handle that looks closer to the original to anything I found.  It has a similar shape and a spring steel core.   What remains to be done is to have a shoemaker or a luggage repair shop apply stitching to the handle on either side of the spring steel.   This was both a decorative touch and a functional one that kept the spring steel core from shifting from side to side.

Here’s a picture of the handle.   Again, far from perfect but perfectly functional.   It was fun to see how it was built in the days when there was a lot of hand craftsmanship even in small things.

 

Handle3

Replacing Guitar Tone Capacitors

I had been wanting to try to play around with the tone of my Gibson Les Paul Studio guitar.   The tone always felt a little thin and I had been reading about the many capacitors available out there.   For $6 a pop with shipping I couldn’t resist the temptation to give it a try and ordered two .025 uf 200 volt glass incased oil/paper Soviet capacitors.

Gibson Studio original caps

This is a photo of the original ceramic caps which were labled MP 203M 100V.   I’m told this is .o20 uf.     The tone of the guitar had been a little nicer than some other guitars I’ve played but seemed to be lacking a little of the brightness and grunt I wished it did.   So it was worth making this little experiment and I’ve kept  the caps just in case I change my mind or someone wants to put it back to “original” some day.

Gibson Studio Soviet Caps

Here are the very cool looking Soviet capacitors installed in the guitar.   They had flat leads which I just cut at an angle to create a pointed shape.  This allowed me to slip them in place for soldering and as you can see, they fit in nicely wiht not clearance trouble.

The Sound:    Wow!  This was very noticable.  First of all the sound seemed deeper and brighter at once…if that’s possible.    Whereas I used to play my guitar almost solely on the pickup closest to the neck with treble up all the way….I noticed immediately that all the pickup positions sounded beefier and much nicer to my ear.   Switching back to the neck pickup produced bassier base notes and the strings seemed to resonate longer.   I’ve heard some describe these as being somewhat similar to Bumblebees but I really can’t say.

This was likely the best $12 I’ve spent (seems like a great value).   Very happy with the the effect it had on the overall guitar tone.   I’m sure there are many other options out there and my curiosity has definately been piqued.

Another Benefit –   I swear I used to hear more static on that guitar.  That seems to have disappeared entirely.   I’m thinking there might have been a lose solder joint or maybe there was damage to one of the capacitors…not sure!   Either way, it seems to have gone away with this change in capacitors.

 

 

Microphonic Tube

Symptom:   Amp warmed up fine in Standby.  When switched to “ON” position the amp quickly developed a low rumble that escalated immediately to an almost full amplified rumble.  I immediately switched back to Standby.

 

I tried letting the amp cool down and then turned it to the “On” position again.  As the amp warmed up I tapped the tubes with a wooden chopstick and all the tubes responded about the same except for one of the power tubes…which rang and the sound grew louder as the tube warmed up.   As soon as it warmed the amp immediately went into the amplified rumble…regardless of whether the volume was turned up or down.

I let the amp cool down and then removed the suspect tube.   I warmed it up again and the amp worked well sans the faulty power tube.   I was surprised…because all that I read about microphonic tubes, none of the examples sounded as severe as what I experienced.   I ordered a matched set of power tubes and I’ll see if this solves the problem.

Update:   Problem still there but the new tubes sounded clean

OK….finally did trace that low rumble feedback.   It turned out to be a triple capacitor that had also gone bad.   I was hoping not to have to replace that one which had looked like it had been replaced once.  It was 22/20/20 uf rated at 450 Volts and I really wasn’t able to find a triple electrolytic capacitor to repalce it with.     See the post labled Triple Capacitor for some photos.    Problem solved:  The amp is working!

 

 

 

Broken Amp Input Jack Replacement

When I was playing around with the amp I found a really bad short in oee of the input jacks.   When I took a good look at the jack from inside the cabinet I discovered that years of use in the #1 input jack had caused enough wear that the crimped area that held the layers of the jack together just snapped apart one day.  If you look carefully at the photo below you might see where it just fell apart.    If you look at the photo below it is the jack on the left that is broken.    The jack was desinged to function as a switch so it was not a typical jack.  Fortunately the name of the manufacturer was visible and I was able to locate an exact replacement (Switchcraft Part # 13E).   This was a little bit of a pain because there were several resisters that had to be be fitted back and there was no room to do it in place.   The only way was really to pull out the two jacks as shown and desolder and solder back the resisters in the same locations.

 

P1010045 - Copy

Improving Grounding In A Vintage Tube Amp With A Three-Pronged Plug Install

I’ve heard of people getting shocked by a vintage tube amplifier that was ungrounded and the 2-prong chord looked like it had seen better days.   So I deicided to add a new 3-prong grounded plug.    I used an existing ground location which was a bolt for the transformer.   You can see it in the lower left of this photo.

The only real difficulty was that the new wire diameter was slightly thicker than the old wire and the gromet that holds the wire in the case was almost impossible to press back in.    My solution was to take a hot soldering iron and melt the inside of the gromet to create a little larger opening and a bit more space for the wire.  It took a couple of attempts but eventually worked and clipped into place.

New Caps             P1010010

 

Tube Amp Blown Capacitor Repair

DISCLAIMER – The repairs mentioned on this site are from personal experiences.   Please do not take any information here and think you’re equipped to work on your amp.   I’m told there are some things in there that can retain enough voltage to kill or seriously hurt you.   I take my own chances….you take yours.

 

 

Filter Capacitor

The round paper tubes that look like a roll of pennies are the old electrolytic capacitors.   The crud yousee in the upper left of the case looks like where the liquid contents of a blown or previously blown capacitor sprayed the inside of the amp.  It looked at first as if it was all rust but some of it rubbed right off.   Avoid touching the capacitors….take great care because they can store a charge well after the amplifier is turned off and unplugged.    I probed them for DC current and they had been discharged.    The blue capacitor to the right was a modern replacement for the one that was obviously blown.   I found of  the same value, and soldered it in.   Turns out the other large capacitor you see in the photo below was also blown.   This one had leads coming out one side and looked like  a firecracker with fuses.   I had trouble finding one with the same electronic value and the same design so I settled with one of a similar value and added a length of wire in order to connect to the same locations.   Also notice the old wiring coming in from the fuse….this was an 2 prong ungrounded chord and in a later post I’ve also decided to upgrade that to 3-prong.

 

New Caps

In the photo above you can see both new capacitors in place.  The new capacitor is smaller in length but is a little stubby compared to the one it replaced.   You can see the wire snaked over from the left side and covered with some heatsrhink tubing.    You may also spot the new power chord with the green grounded wire.    I plugged the amp in and for the first time in a long time it did not immediately blow the main fuse.   The Standby circuit seemed to work fine and it’s pilot light was glowing instead of flickering.   That seemed like progress.   Once the tubes seemed warm I moved the switch to “ON” and amost immediately I got a terrible low frequency rumble that threatened to blow out the speakers.   It seemed unaffected by the volume controls…so I shut down the amp immediately.    Experimenting a bit…I was able to get the amp to play while the tubes reahced operating temperature.   This still felt like progress because at least I was not blowing the fuse and I was getting a nice sound…but as soon as the tubes warmed up….Deep Rumble again!!      While fiddling around with plugging the guitar in one of the four inputs I also discovered that there was a short in one.    That will be mentioned in a future post.

Amped Up! Vintage Amp Repair

This site is for anyone who shares enthusiasm and interest in classic and vintage tube amplifiers or vintage amp repair..   Like me it’s going to begin at square one..just having an interest or growing fascination with them.   Let’s face it…there’s something about the allure, distinctive tone, the magic, the romanticism of an older tube amplifer.   Where to begin?   For me there is a definate beginning.   I didn’t realize Gibson made amplifiers.   One day at a local auction I happened to see a Gibson Recording Amp wheeled out.  It looked pretty ratty but somehow I decided to bid on it, regardless of condition.   I brought it home, plugged it in and tried it out.   I remember the tubes glowing , a slight hum and then I tried playing through it.  I feel in love immediately with the warm powerful tone and the glowing pilot light.   A little while later my delight turned to fright as a crackling sound came from somewhere inside, some smoke too and I turned it off immediately.  Next time I tried to turn it on I blew the fuse and it’s been that way since :  (     So this is the beginning.

I’ve come to realize the amp is a 1965 Gibson Recording Amp.   I wonder about the history of this amp and who owned it…it must have a story.  I did since learn that not too man of this particular amp were made.  Maybe 200 overall and possibly only 16 shipped in 1965, with black tolex covering and black plastic knobs withaluminum centers.  I’m finding that some of the parts might not be so easy to find.   As I find sources of parts and things I’ll try to mention or list them on the site.